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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Having the possibility to set the icon for each component and or
port is very nice. In my previous post I already mentioned the need to position
the ports of these objects. In my current case to create the visual
representation of the connector plate of computers and switches. But for other
apliences the positioning of the ports is equally important to match the
visuals that are currently (informally) used. With a tool like metaedit+ I can create
the exact visual that I need for my DSL. with GME I can create the exact model
for my DSM. What is missing is a link between the two. Also somehow having /
creating different visuals for different Aspects would be a nice feature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ah well, it is already much better than 10 years ago, so I won't
complain. And I expect that in the end the two approaches will somehow be
combined. Leaves me currently occupied with the puzzle to find the right tool
for the current job :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jeroen Kouwer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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gme-users-bounces@list.isis.vanderbilt.edu
[mailto:gme-users-bounces@list.isis.vanderbilt.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry
Howard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 01 June, 2010 15:34<br>
<b>To:</b> A list for GME users to share thoughts and discuss bugs and fixes.<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gme-users] Instances in Aspects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Yes, I think an addon component could be an effective
way to mediate the creation of an object from the Parts Browser. For the
selected meta-object, the addon could offer the user a palette of supported
types associated with the meta-object. The user's selection from this
palette would then be used to complete the object creation operation by instancing
the type. This approach essentially extends the drag and drop nature of
the Parts Browser with type-based specialization.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I should mention that distinctive icons could be used with a
fixed type system, as components can set an arbitrary icon for a GME object.
This visual cueing could complement type information displayed in the GME
interface when an object is selected on the modeling canvas. An
alternative would be icon decoration using GME's decorator interface. But this
approach, while powerful, is more involved and not where I'd start.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Larry Howard, Sr. Research Scientist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 1, 2010, at 7:47 AM, KOUWER Jeroen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks
for the answer.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If
I understand you correctly you advise me to use what is called in the help
files: "</span><span style='color:black'>The third types of these<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='color:white;
background:#0A246A'>components</span><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='color:black'> </span></span><span style='color:black'>are<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><em>add-ons</em>, i.e.<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='color:white;
background:#0A246A'>components</span><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='color:black'> </span></span><span style='color:black'>that can
react to GME-events sent by the COM Mga-Layer. These<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='color:white;
background:#0A246A'>components</span><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='color:black'> </span></span><span style='color:black'>are very
useful to make GME a run-time executional environment or to write more
sophisticated paradigm dependent or independent extensions.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>"</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I'll look into creating these kind of components and use the
basic functionality as a starting point.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Jeroen Kouwer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:gme-users-bounces@list.isis.vanderbilt.edu">gme-users-bounces@list.isis.vanderbilt.edu</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:gme-users-bounces@list.isis.vanderbilt.edu]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Larry Howard<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, 01 June,
2010 14:02<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>A list for GME users
to share thoughts and discuss bugs and fixes.<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [gme-users]
Instances in Aspects</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>GME provides all of the necessary support for creating and
using palettes of types, it just doesn't provide it in a generalized facility
as nicely integrated into the interface as Aspects. On the other hand,
since Aspects conditionalize both the Parts browser and the modeling canvas, I
don't think that Aspects give you precisely what you want either.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>One alternative is to provide your own support via GME
components. I've attached a screenshot of such an approach from a GME
environment called CAPE. On the left in the screenshot are meta-objects,
and (for the selected meta-object) on the right is a palette of types (labeled
"Templates"). The component supports instancing the types.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Larry Howard, Sr. Research Scientist</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Institute for Software Integrated Systems, Vanderbilt University</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 1, 2010, at 5:30 AM, KOUWER Jeroen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Is there another way (besides Aspects) to force the use of
instances only in a diagram / generated editor? Because I don't want to allow
the users to change the definition.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regard,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:gme-users-bounces@list.isis.vanderbilt.edu">gme-users-bounces@list.isis.vanderbilt.edu</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:gme-users-bounces@list.isis.vanderbilt.edu]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Larry Howard<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, 01 June,
2010 12:23<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>A list for GME users
to share thoughts and discuss bugs and fixes.<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [gme-users]
Instances in Aspects</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Aspects are defined on meta-objects. The Types and
Instances facility addresses objects. So the answer to your first
question is no.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Types and Instances seems an appropriate approach to what
you describe, but you must leave Aspects aside.<o:p></o:p></p>
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color:black'>Larry Howard, Sr. Research Scientist</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 1, 2010, at 3:57 AM, KOUWER Jeroen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
would like to have one team developing a variaty of objects (e.g. cars,
computers, etc.). And I would like to create the ability for another group to
use these objects (in e.g. car-park lists, network design, etc.). My first idea
is to use instances of objects: have one group model the objects and allow
another group to create instances of these objects. The manual explains how to
create instences from an already created object, but is it possible to restrict
the contents of an aspect to instences of a certain object?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>So
my approach is to use instances, but should / can it be done with a different
approach using GME?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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